Half-penny thoughts — 30jan26

An interesting word came my way recently (I “collect” interesting words) and, while I understood the concept outside of the actual word, I didn’t know what it was called.

That word is “aphantasia”, a condition in which a person cannot visualize mental images, and it impacts up to an estimated 5% of the population. When you say “tree” they cannot conjure up a mental image of a tree when they close their eyes.

There is actually a spectrum of how well people can mentally visualize things:

  • Aphantasia (The “Blind” Mind’s Eye): The complete or near-complete inability to voluntarily visualize mental images. Individuals with aphantasia cannot “see” a person’s face or an object in their mind, often relying on conceptual or fact-based memory instead. Usually lacks in all five senses.
  • Phantasia (“Typical” Imagery): The standard ability to voluntarily conjure mental images. For most, these images are somewhat clear but distinguishable from reality and exist in a “mental space” rather than in front of the eyes. Usually visual only.
  • Hyperphantasia (Extreme Vividness): Imagery that is exceptionally vivid, often described as being “as clear as real seeing”. Hyperphantasics can often manipulate complex 3D objects or revisit memories with photographic or cinematic detail. May involve as many as all five senses.
  • Prophantasia (Projected Imagery): The rarest form, where mental images are projected into the physical field of vision rather than just being seen in the mind. This can occur with eyes open—like seeing “built-in CGI” over the real world—or with eyes closed, where images appear on the back of the eyelids. Is usually just visual.

While there are guided tests out there to help you understand where you might be on the spectrum, those online are suspiciously not set up as blind tests and it is easy to bias the test in favor of your personal preferences, if you so wish (anything with an obvious scaling factor is not very scientific). Rather than take the test to “prove” where you stand, it is just as valid to skip the test and give yourself an assessment by looking at the descriptions above to determine where you sit.

I personally probably sit solidly in the hyperphantasic end of the spectrum, with the occasional brief foray into prophantasia. The hyper- leanings are probably due to the fact that I find visualization easier with my eyes closed; I might lean more pro- if I were to keep my eyes open when I am visualizing things, but I can’t say that for certain until I try it out. But I have had visualized experiences with eyes wide open, although they tend to be fuzzy and unrefined.

That said, I don’t think anyone should strive to be one group or another. I think it just explains fairly well why I am able to do visualization exercises easily and why my dreams might be more vivid than those that other people might have (when I talk with folks, I’m often surprised at just how vivid my dreams are compared to others’).

Where do you find yourself sitting on this spectrum? Are you surprised to discover that others’ experiences are different than your own (vivid, less vivid)? Do you think it helps or hinders someone to be on one extreme of the spectrum or the other? Do you think that doing visualization exercises can change your position on the spectrum? Do you need visual queues to trigger the images, or can you create approximations of the visuals based on external inputs?


30 responses to “Half-penny thoughts — 30jan26”

  1. missparker0106 Avatar

    Phantasia. I’m fine with this, since it has been the foundation of my mental space my entire life. I’ve had to deal with enough other “differences” from the “norm” being left-handed. 🙂

    1. michael raven Avatar

      A southpaw?!?!? Oh noes!

      I have several lefties in my family, so I know what you have had to put up with. The kiddos managed to avoid the stigma that comes with being left-handed (even to this day, although less so from what I can see), but my father and sister were given tons of grief for it, especially my father who was punished by the nuns at his Catholic school whenever he used his left hand for anything. And finding things that just don’t work left-handed if not designed for lefties was almost impossible for both growing up (scissors, for example).

      Thanks for the response, I always enjoy reading what others think about such things.

      1. missparker0106 Avatar

        Yeah, it’s been challenging. But it’s amazing how lefties adapt. I learned to play guitar right-handed for convenience’s sake, which makes sense to me because the lion’s share of the work is done by the left hand. I also throw a ball right-handed (must have been taught that at an early age), but bat and bowl left-handed. “Whatever doesn’t kill us…” and all that.

        1. michael raven Avatar

          My father taught me how to shoot pool and it drives folks crazy that I shoot pool left-handed. 😊

          Did you tell me you played guitar in the past? I don’t seem to recall that juicy tidbit.

          1. missparker0106 Avatar

            I played up until about 30 years ago. I still have my guitar and am contemplating taking lessons to get back into it.

          2. michael raven Avatar

            Do it, I’d love to hear it.

  2. Chico’s Mom Avatar

    From the descriptions, I’m fall under the phantasia group.

    1. michael raven Avatar

      Most people are going to, I think. My theory is that there might be a slight tick amongst creative people toward the hyper- end of the spectrum, but I don’t know that with any kind of certainty. My rationale (still in my noggin) might be flawed.

      1. Chico’s Mom Avatar

        I think anytime we try to define the world in our terms, a lot gets lost. While I have no issue with science trying to figure out things; it’s hard to put everything in a box. And that’s what we feel the need to do. Wrap it up in a box, call it this, put a bow on it and call it done. Life doesn’t work like that. We can have all the pretty boxes lined up in a row, then one box comes bouncing down the street looking all confused because it doesn’t fit in anywhere. Those terms and their definitions give a great framework. But should never be the ‘be all and end all’ of any discussion. 🤷‍♀️

        1. michael raven Avatar

          Absolutely true. I should have emphasized that professionals see this as a spectrum, not as defined boxes. Instead of red or blue, people may have purple character, with the occasional green or orange days scattered around 😊

          But, you are right, people like to put simple labels onto complex things and anyone reading this post should understand that this doesn’t work quite that way (with the exception, perhaps of aphantasia, where that small slice of the population appear to be completely unable to visualize something).

          1. Chico’s Mom Avatar

            I understand that this is a spectrum. It’s all good.

  3. lodestarwytch Avatar

    I’m definitely somewhere at the end of the spectrum, people are usually quite jealous- but with my intrusive OCD it has plenty of drawbacks that they wouldn’t want! Your rationale works when applied to me, if that helps a little with your theory.

    1. lodestarwytch Avatar

      People seem to only see the benefits in being able to visualise and see so vividly but it can have just as many downsides 😅

    2. michael raven Avatar

      Yeah, sometimes being able to visualize something means that it is sometime hard to “unsee” it. Impossible at times. I don’t know that I would favor one end over the other.

      Thanks for supporting my unsupported theory 😁

  4. Tansy Gunnar Avatar

    Like usual, I’m of no help. IDK what I’d be. Nor, can I answer the questions. But… I can write and draw blindfolded, with my eyes closed, or in the dark. My old art teacher (of 6 years) taught me how to see things vividly in my mind and can create them… Sometimes 😉😁… if I know the medium well enough.

    1. michael raven Avatar

      Well then, somewhere out there on that spectrum and not unable to see at all. 😊 That works for me and is helpful to think about.

  5. lyndhurstlaura Avatar

    Fascinating, Michael; I’d no idea. I’m boringly normal, sitting most of the time in the Phantasia range. I have, on very rare occasions, experienced something which would fit into the Prophantasia range. It’s always happened when I’m in bed, somewhere in that between sleeping and waking area, where I’m seeing a person or persons, unknown to me, but standing in the room opposite me and interacting with each other. It’s not something I’ve overtly summoned up either, but it has to be coming from my mind. There are more things in heaven and earth, as they say … 🙂

    1. michael raven Avatar

      I think I recall you saying something about an experience like that once… It’s an interesting concept. I’m not sure how useful the continuum is in practical terms, or if it is useful at all. But it is a fun thing to consider where you are at on these kinds of scales and to find out how others self-rate themselves.

      1. lyndhurstlaura Avatar

        Yes, disturbing rather than useful, but an interesting experience in what the brain does and why the hell does it do it? And yes, interesting to note the differing experiences of others. 🙂

  6. Jennifer Patino Avatar

    I’m definitely in the hyperphantasia club. My dreams are very vivid too. I’m often told “Wow, I don’t dream like that!” I can picture things very easily in my mind often picking up on subtle details. My memory is different now with epilepsy and age but when I was younger I had photographic tendencies. If I read something just once and especially if I wrote it out I could remember quotes and passages. We had to memorize and recite poems when I was in elementary school and that was a breeze to me. I miss having that sharp of a memory, but I’m still very good at recalling depending on seizures I have.

    1. michael raven Avatar

      I’m not able to quite go that far in to my visualization, at least not on a sustained basis. It is more of a fluctuation kind of thing for me.

      My dreams on the other hand… Whew.

  7. Stacey C. Johnson Avatar
    Stacey C. Johnson

    Wow! This is fascinating. Thank you, Michael. I had briefly read about (then forgotten the name of) aphantasia, but had never heard of the others. This new awareness that there is a state called prophantasia would definitely explain a lot of my childhood memories.

    1. michael raven Avatar

      I used to think I might have serious issues when I was a teen, but I think they can be explained as periods of prophantasia, so I can relate to your experience. Until I had looked up aphantasia to better understand the word, I wasn’t aware of the other categories myself.

      1. Stacey C. Johnson Avatar
        Stacey C. Johnson

        : )

  8. Bob Avatar

    I have aphantasia. I have no mind’s eye. I just discovered this a few years ago. And when I read about it, I was immediately, yes, that’s me. I always said, I have a bad memory. I was terrible at spelling tests at school. My wife and I recently watched a TED talk about this. And the speaker said he couldn’t picture his kids face when he was at work. My wife asked, if I could picture her face when she was not around. I said, no. Which kind of caught her by surprise. My wife is at the opposite of the spectrum, a very vivid mind’s eye.

    1. michael raven Avatar

      In reading about it I was surprised that people have found ways around it. Some interesting.

      Thanks for telling us about it. It is interesting to see where people fall on the spectrum.

      1. Bob Avatar

        Crazy to me, some people don’t have an internal monologue. Mine is going all the time.

        1. michael raven Avatar

          Personal monologue and theme song. 😊

          1. Bob Avatar

            Haha, brilliant!!

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