The biography I am reading for the Minneapolis band, The Replacements, is both lengthy and well done. I’m just crossing the half-way point and the tale has reached that point in their story where the band started to show their cracks with their lead guitarist, Bob Stinson.
There was always a bit of tension there between Bob and the singer-songwriter Paul Westerberg. Paul was a little older than Bob and Chris Mars (the drummer) and all of them were older by quite a bit than Tommy Stinson (bass player). Paul used his age and experience to take over what had originally been Bob’s band, Dogbreath. [Side note: Tommy was very young and playing bars on a regular basis by 13 years of age.]
I’m not going to go into details of their dynamics in this post, but by the time that The Replacements were discovered by Sire/Warner Records prior to recording their breakout album “Tim”, Bob was feeling like an outsider in his own band. His kid brother and Paul had their eyes set on making it in music (Chris seemed to be happy just playing drums, no matter the fame level) and Bob (by all appearances) seemed quite content playing garage rock in the local bar scene, maybe doing a little regional touring. As the music moved away from the Minnesota “punk sound” and into more melodic fare, Bob may have felt left behind and the band started to fracture (arguably, the fractures started to show in the album prior to “Tim”, named after the first song they heard on the radio while discussing album names, “Let It Be”).
While that was my place in the book, I actually dialed back a little bit, guided by YouTube’s algorithm, which reminded me that the band had a very early video recording of a performance at the 7th Street Entry, a venue adjacent to it’s better known bigger brother, First Avenue (made world famous by the movie “Purple Rain”). It was recorded just before I started delving into music outside of my parent’s record collection and the radio in 1981 and was a high-quality digital transfer of the show (I started listening to the Replacements around 1983).
If you’ve noticed, I always put “punk” in quotes when I refer to The Replacements and Hüsker Dü (another local “punk” band). That’s how both bands are classified by a number of people, but I have always been skeptical of the label for either. We certainly had punk music in town, and plenty of post-punk at the time, but neither band fit neatly into that genre in my opinion. Both were more musically talented then most bands of that genre, which often emphasized speed, politics and/or simplicity over composition. Aside from the speed elements of earlier efforts by both bands, their songs were actually quite complex and neither band could give two shits about politics. Eventually, both quit trying to be fast as well.
While this live footage certainly showcases their speed (it was their thing at the time), most punk bands at the time would follow Verse/Chorus/Repeat/End progressions. A few might add a bridge. But, if you listen, the ‘Mats were fast like punk, but their compositions had more than simple verse/chorus/bridge constructions. In reality, most of it was just fast rock. Sure, Paul was still writing things like “Goddam Job”, which was mostly repeating variations of “I need a goddam job”, but their early music was still often more structurally complex than your standard hardcore punk available at the time.
Considering they were having issues that evening with their guitars going out of tune (I’ve had those shows myself, so I know what it’s like), they sound really tight in this first of two sets. Aside from soundboard balance elements (they were notorious for being hard to engineer live sound for), there is little to differentiate the sound from their debut “Sorry Ma, Forgot to Take Out the Trash” and the follow-up EP, “Stink”.
The second set from the evening is just as tight, although they start to give up on trying to keep the instruments in tune. They appear mostly sober (for them), but you could never tell if the drunk was a put on or a real thing — but relative sobriety likely helped the overall sound.
Older, maybe wiser, I look back and I’m impressed all over again. You can see the beginnings of their later music that had more popular appeal (on the college circuit anyway). If this was “punk” we had it damn good here in the Twin Cities.

19 responses to “More Trouble, Boys”
Are you from minnesota or have I misunderstood in my normal Natalie way?
I grew up in Minneapolis and have lived in the area for most of my life, with a short stint living in Seattle. I currently live in a suburb of Minneapolis.
Why do you ask? Do you have ties here?
I grew up in Minneapolis lol, with a short stint in seattle as well.
How ridiculously unusual.
Now in California.
Extreme serendipity, LOL. Small world.
We probably hung out in different circles when you lived here, so I doubt we ever encountered each other — besides that would be beyond weird.
If you ever feel like sharing your experiences in the Twin Cities, you know where to find me.
We probably did, I was born 1990 and lived there until I was about sixteen. My circle was family and children. lol I was briefly there again while caring for my father before he passed, maybe a year or so.
But
We still might have encountered one another 🤷♀️ sort of an interesting and comforting feeling
Well it’s fun to imagine our paths crossed all the same. Thanks for the unexpected news of a connection. It gave me a grin for the day. 😊
Not a band I know but the fractures sound like a not-unusual development arc for a band. Nothing stays the same. Thanks for sharing this. 🙂
They were influencers for many of the grunge bands that did make it big, almost any of them. But, yeah, unless you were listening to American college radio in the eighties, there is a good chance you’d never heard of them. However, they used to hang out with REM at dive bars getting drunk, so they were rubbing elbows with fame 😊
Sounds like they were having a good time! 🙂
I like their music, and I agree with your decision to label them as “punk.” I’m no expert on punk but I know enough to question some of tunes/bands categorized as such. Thanks for sharing. 🎶
Influenced me more than I realized until years later. Even my Goth music had their DNA in it.
🎶🧬🎶🧬🎶
Thanks for sharing. I hadn’t heard of them, and I haven’t listened to this type of music in quite a while. It reminded me of Greg Ginn, and I like everything he did. I am listening to the remixed Pleased To Meet Me. The mix on the original is horrid. I have hearing damage, so it sounded like mud. This sounds like a band Henry Rollins would play when he DJs.
That’s from their latter music, with Slim Dunlap on lead guitar. My favorite track on that is probably Skyway, the title which probably means nothing to anyone who lives away from Minneapolis.
That album was decent. Weird mix. About that time they also covered Cruella D’Ville, which I recommend checking out if you can find it on YouTube for something silly. 😊
Thanks for checking it out.
Man I’d like to find a DVD or Blu Ray of them playing a full concert. It’d have to be with Bob for me to be interested. If you know of any tell me please Michael. I’m no good with youtube, really, but I love to watch an authentic show, and these guys were amazing.
I’ll look around, but chances are slim. Bob was out by around 1988 and they didn’t really get much college radio exposure until about then. And they all hated videos. They thought MTV was bullshit (watch Bastards of Young official video and you’ll see their concession).
But I’ll look around and let you know if I find anything aside from the 7th Street Entry videos from ’81 (there’s a second video in the series).
Thanks Michael!
I can find bits and bobs with Bob, but nothing lengthy. I’ll look harder when not doing family stuff. Happy Thanksgiving, my friend.
Happy Thanksgiving to you too😃