Half-Penny Thoughts — 23mar26

I’ll have to admit that I am mighty surprised by the lack of discoverable serialized fiction via WordPress Reader. That isn’t to say that it doesn’t exist, but either WordPress Reader doesn’t recognize the term, people don’t use “serialized fiction” (or variations of it) for tags or categories, or there are just not that many folks publishing such things that are connected to WordPress.

Yes, I am aware of other platforms that have paid subscription and paid models for such things which might improve readership — or perception of “value” — and maybe I’m an idiot for not trying to monetize my writing. But that was never a strong motivator for me.

Added to it is that most writers seem to have a WordPress account that they picked up at one point or another, whereas who really wants another account just to read a fellow blogger’s writing? And almost all of these sites tend to lean into one genre or another, many of which are expecting the readers to pay for access (or the writer to allow access, often at unproven, premium rates).

That said, I will accept that there are other platforms that are designed better than base WordPress for fiction and serialized fiction, and designing a site to be multipurpose, including handling long fiction besides more standard fare (blogs, poetry, one-off fiction pieces, news articles, etc.) can be a royal pain. You often have to think three steps ahead to bake that functionality into your post styles.

I wonder if there might not be a way to approach the whole blogroll/reposting thing to improve discoverability for those of us who tend to enjoy each other’s writing. Search algorithms seem to rely too much on some kind of black box scoring instead of being actually useful at times. And I really don’t care to read 5073 versions of the daily prompt responses out there, which someone decided was the most important metric to promote on the Reader.

Am I just missing the boat here? Have you found it easy to discover things such as serialized content? Do you even look for such things? Are webs serials a royal pain in the tuchus as a reader? Am I the only person who really dislikes the daily writing prompts from Reader?


24 responses to “Half-Penny Thoughts — 23mar26”

  1. missparker0106 Avatar

    I can’t speak knowledgeably to most of your questions, but the daily prompt? A complete waste of electrons, in my humble opinion.

    1. michael raven Avatar

      Thank goodness that I’m not alone in this. They all feel like they belong on Facebook. Or MySpace maybe. They are about as Milquetoast smalltalk as you can get without actually trying.

      1. missparker0106 Avatar

        Well put! 🤣 I haven’t figured out how to turn them off when I get ready to publish a review or playlist. But, when I do…….

        1. michael raven Avatar

          Like Jolene (Chico’s Mom), I only recall how to do it from Jetpack. Hitting the three dots at the top on mobile lets you remove which content shows up there. I’ve not visited my WordPress.com sites for a while, but I bet there is a similar mechanism for it near the top of the screen or buried in the “Writing” menu. But it is definitely hidden…

  2. Chico’s Mom Avatar

    I can only speak to the app JetPack. If you look under reader, then discover, this space will populate with post from categories you can choose.

  3. erroneouschoices Avatar

    So many thoughts.
    I know there have been others here that post ongoing fiction. I’ve come across plenty over the years. It’s not my area of interest so unless it’s someone I know I don’t follow them. That being said, when one does want to be notified of something specific like that there are supposed to be ways to manage that.
    As far as being read, as in your situation, I’m not sure how to accomplish that on WordPress without the constant normal work that the site is. It requires a lot of time and attention to expose oneself and make ourselves known to others. It seems WordPress is highly reliant on tags. I’ve recently, sort of out of frustration, played with tags and I’ve been mildly surprised at some increased reads and likes some posts have and I’m guessing it was whatever tags I used.
    I personally think your paragraph about the blog roll and repost is a key here. I was at a site once that had a highlight space. In other words, the most read blogs in that day or so were listed. That was helpful. But I think we are stuck with making ourselves known and reading other people as often as possible. I see no other WordPress way. lol. I wish though

    1. michael raven Avatar

      I was less concerned about my own appearance in those search results than in the fact that I tried about two dozen keywords to look for that kind of running content to see how folks are handing their own sites, figuring I could maybe learn something from their post design philosophies (as much what not to do as what does work). I just found it baffling that something like “fiction” would send me to some article about how to make sure a dress fits me correctly as one of the “most relevant posts”… (it wasn’t that exactly, but similar).

      But you have some good thinks there, Natalie. People who want to be popular need to put a shit-ton of work into it in most cases, often without much reward for the effort. It becomes a second job.

      While I’m not above improving my chances of being seen, I don’t want a second, largely unpaid job as part of the bargain with whatever devil you have to deal with. 😂

      1. erroneouschoices Avatar

        Eh, depends. For, me popular doesn’t really fall into the opportunity to have something I’m writing and then posting to not actually be read. I have a tone of notebooks for that. lol

        No matter what, WordPress makes certain their site is a tad complex in that it will take work to be seen or to find things to read. Seems the nature of the WordPress beast.
        I recall being so shocked and a little appalled when I realized people who were liking my post hadn’t necessarily read it. 😂 What a concept? To read what you’re saying you like…

        1. michael raven Avatar

          Yep. Those people are trying to treat WP like FB. I never understood what having followers did for you when most people use Reader — you can’t even say that you’re seeing a jump in ad revenue by power-clicking or bot-clicking posts to get people to power-click or bot-click your posts. All very odd.

          There are days that I consider going back to notebooks where I can pretend I have a bunch of adoring fans that can’t wait to read my next masterpiece poem or story.😂

  4. sopantooth Avatar

    I’ve found many but just by stumble upon- searching for fiction is too broad and if there’s another tag that has a wide adoption for serial fiction I don’t know what it is. This is the kind of thing that “AI” should be able to help with but cannot.

    1. michael raven Avatar

      Thanks for the affirmation. I found it to be a broadly strange thing to be difficult to find. Like you, I’m not aware of any other terms being used aside from “episodic”, “serial” and “web novel”.

      I have a feeling that the algorithm, for whatever reason, has depreciated that taxonomy.

  5. lodestarwytch Avatar

    Ugh not the daily prompt…! I generally just nosy through wp till I find something I like. Ah crap I did my thing didn’t I where I thought I emailed you but never got around to the typing part…OK adding reply to email to my physical to-do list 😅

    1. michael raven Avatar

      😂 I completely understand, I’ve had those days (weeks?) myself.

      It always nice to hear what you’ve been up to on the other side of the pond, so looking forward to it.

  6. lyndhurstlaura Avatar

    I’ve been on WordPress a relatively short time, and I’ve never bothered with the daily prompt. I’m afraid I don’t tend to read serialised fiction either, nor impossibly- long posts. I guess I tune into shorter posts of interest to me, treating it rather like a newspaper and reading first lines to spark my interest, or not. Sorry.

    1. michael raven Avatar

      Nothing to be sorry for. We all do what we can and that should be enough. I don’t read travel or sports blogs, so I get it.

      I’m more intrigued by how the algorithms seem to push for certain things, in spite of explicitly requesting another. But I’ve already expressed similar thoughts to the powers that be on an official WP blog I was invited to comment on and they changed the most nonsensical recommendations for the most part in my (and everyone else’s) discovery feed shortly after. Still, oddness persists.

      I don’t think people ask enough questions when it comes to how we are spoon-fed “curated” algorithm-based content across the internet (to not pick on WP exclusively).

      1. lyndhurstlaura Avatar

        There’s so much that could do with improving, but I’ve always felt like I’m banging my head against a brick wall when I try to get through to them (on several platforms). Best of luck with getting any oddness sorted out 🙂

  7. Jennifer Patino Avatar

    Substack is where I see more serializations. But you’re writing it here on WP and so are Steve and Ted, so maybe y’all are starting a revolution. 😊

    1. michael raven Avatar

      I think my biggest beef with substack was the lack of content control on the receiving end. No ready to throttle the frequency of email notifications, if I recall.

      I wonder what appeals to those writers. Probably a little flavor of the month effect.

      I’m not sure we’ll start a revolution, but I know I’m kind of stubborn and will be grumpy old guy shaking his fist. 😂

  8. Jennifer Patino Avatar

    Oh, and yeah. Daily Prompt = 👎👎

    1. michael raven Avatar

      I’ve stopped reading responses when folks I follow participate in the daily, with a few exceptions for people who turn it into something more than a one-paragraph response. Even then, most times I just skip responses to that prompt.

  9. shredbobted Avatar

    I feel like it’s really hard to find writers doing serialized fiction on WordPress, to the point that I typed in the tag “Blovel” (admittedly, possibly mildly pejorative) and found I was the only one using it.

    However, since I started looking for the writers who are publishing on WordPress, and, very important here, reading their work, I notice that the ones who are doing it are astonishingly good. Including yourself, Michael.

    Maybe it’s that it takes a bit of experience and nohow to be brave enough to post words for the world. I have a feeling it has something to do with what you said: setting aside the desire for financial gain for our hard work. That takes a certain sense of humility.

    And maybe it’s just the luck of the times.

    But I’ll definitely trade quality for quantity, and maybe a slow build is a good way to go about it.

    I think we should be very aggressive in pointing other quality writers out to those who are interested; that was part of my purpose in doing the Writer’s Shindig. And who knows, maybe we are at the start of something good.

    1. michael raven Avatar

      “Only one *recently using it (blovel)”. There is a half-life element to discovery as well. A freshness quotient, so to speak.

      Thank you kindly for the praise, Ted. I always figured I’m just too dumb to know when to stop sharing my writing. 🙂

      I miss the whole webring idea from the 90s-00s. Not quite a blogroll, as it was randomized, but click on the webring icon and you were likely going to be sent somewhere interesting, if still related to what you had just read. I’m honestly surprised that hasn’t been resurrected.

      Hmm. I just had some modest luck last night having Gemini code me a WordPress plugin to do a simple reader thing, where the reader had control of dark/light mode and focus mode with some font choices. I wonder if I couldn’t convince it to help me set up a webring…

      ANYWAY!

      Time to brainstorm those kinds of cross-promotions. You never know what might work.

      1. shredbobted Avatar

        Yes! Let’s keep it going!

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